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Post by MrEMonkey on Jun 5, 2015 19:52:52 GMT
My employer prohibits firearms--I don't like it, but it does make sense, in a lot of ways, to keep things that go "bang" away from things that go "boom."  That aside, I do like my job, and it does have much better benefits than my last job (pay among them), so I'm with nxp on risk vs reward. I encourage my interns to be properly and heavily armed  ...don't hate Totally not hating. A little envious in that regard, perhaps. I do like my job, all else aside. |
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Post by red on Jun 5, 2015 21:06:26 GMT
Im wondering if Omega needs another intern. No not really i could not afford a move or anything yet.
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Post by nxp on Jun 5, 2015 21:30:49 GMT
Im wondering if Omega needs another intern. No not really i could not afford a move or anything yet. Intern hell, I'll apply! All that cool crap he gets to do? Still, there's something to be said about wearing PJ's all day and hanging out in the AC playing the Maytag man... Not even sure why I blue txt'd that. It's true. |
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Post by rickoshea on Jun 6, 2015 3:03:41 GMT
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Jun 6, 2015 3:09:52 GMT
Yeah, if they get pistols 100% guarantee they'll get 'salt rifles.
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Post by omegaman on Jun 6, 2015 3:20:59 GMT
So the latest rumor going around is that the Gub'mint wants to reclassify your AR/AK pistols as NFA items..... ATF to Reclassify “High Power” Pistols as NFA Items:
tacticalshit.com/atf-to-reclassify-high-power-pistols-as-nfa-items/
Ridiculous, but not surprising. We can probably thank the sig arm brace for this, 'cuz it appears the atf got butthurt by their own stupidity. Don't panic, remain calm, and have a plan to bury your shit. |
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Jun 6, 2015 15:57:04 GMT
Join the nfafa.org
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Post by dannusmaximus on Jun 6, 2015 20:31:24 GMT
So I've been carrying a gun at work again. Bad idea? Probably, because I got fired from my last job for exactly that. I switched to night shift and don't exactly work in a nice area so it's a calculated risk. Im not carrying on body, though. It's in a locked, non gun-like safe inside of a backpack that is also locked at the zipper inside of my work locker (that mgmt has the combo for). In my AO this is legal just against company policy. I have a couple months bill money set aside in case I'm found out. Thoughts? It's a 2" Taurus M85 .38 5-shot with 125gr +P Golden Saber, for you fellow nerds. My thoughts: Well, you're not really 'carrying' a gun at work, are you? Unless I misread, you've got a gun at work, locked in a box, which is locked in a bag, which is locked in another box- - i.e., completely useless for practically any work-related self-defense scenario which I can readily think up. If I were you, I would think very hard about the who/what/when/where of threats you feel you might be facing at work. If based on that analysis it appears that the major SD scenarios you might find yourself in would NOT be helped by having a gun thus secured, then you're merely increasing your risk of termination while doing nothing to increase your SD ability. That's not a good thing. |
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Post by MrEMonkey on Jun 6, 2015 22:27:12 GMT
So, not that things like logic, or justification matter much to ATF, but I wonder how they could explain their reasoning behind that potential decision. I mean, what, technically, distinguishes them from other pistols? They fire a "rifle cartridge?" Well, there go .22 pistols, right? Doesn't matter that they're not "high power" pistols. And what about high-powered pistol cartridges like 10mm, 44mag, 357mag, etc? You can find rifles chambered in those, so they could potentially be affected by the same "reasoning." I realize that the end goal of these types is to prevent us from legally owning any firearms, and it seems like this could potentially be a big step in that direction. I'm just curious how they'd explain it. |
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Jun 6, 2015 22:58:44 GMT
It can't be explained because none of it makes sense.
Sold sks. Got what I paid for it, happy. Saw a Colt SP1 in mint condition for $1600. Wow, such an intense level of want. I had to put it down and walk away.
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Post by MrEMonkey on Jun 6, 2015 23:05:04 GMT
It can't be explained because none of it makes sense. Right. It might make more sense for them to say "we're changing the rule because we say so" without providing any sort of "reasoning" which could be ridiculed or used against them. Besides, Big Daddy Gummint doesn't owe us peons an explanation, anyway. |
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Post by Browning35 on Jun 6, 2015 23:45:59 GMT
My thoughts: Well, you're not really 'carrying' a gun at work, are you? Unless I misread, you've got a gun at work, locked in a box, which is locked in a bag, which is locked in another box- - i.e., completely useless for practically any work-related self-defense scenario which I can readily think up. If I were you, I would think very hard about the who/what/when/where of threats you feel you might be facing at work. If based on that analysis it appears that the major SD scenarios you might find yourself in would NOT be helped by having a gun thus secured, then you're merely increasing your risk of termination while doing nothing to increase your SD ability. That's not a good thing. The one scenario that people seem to think about when having/hiding a gun in the work place like that, but where it's all locked up (because to the corporation/owner/supervisors above you it represents a potential lawsuit and that person's interests conflict with theirs and so they're hiding it from them) is this : If a former disgruntled employee goes postal and this button-down, Oxford-cloth psycho just snaps, and then stalks from office to office with an Armalite AR-10 carbine gas-powered semi-automatic weapon, pumping round after round into colleagues and co-workers and that individual (Tony in this case) is forced to retreat and find a place to hide then the theory goes that they can retreat to the locker room, retrieve the gun and protect themselves by pumping a few bullets of their own into the psycho. That's what I'm figuring the plan is anyway because I've had this discussion before. Then again I could be completely off the mark and maybe that isn't Tony's plan (correct me if I'm wrong about that). Just a guess on my part. The trouble with that is their potential route of retreat might very well be cut off and they might be forced to go a different way to get out of the building. Unless that person is working at a bench and keeps the gun hidden from their supervisor and co-workers, but readily accessible in their workspace (worked in four gunfights for Lance Thomas *Click* although he was the business owner and wasn't hiding them from anyone except the general public) chances are the person wouldn't be able to get to it. In the late 90's at my first EMS job there was a .38 Spl revolver kept in a cabinet in between the Captain's chair and the cab in the ambulance that everyone from all 3 shifts had pitched in and had gotten before I got there. They told me about it when I got there and being a gun-guy and a newbie EMT I was fine with it. I think one of the guys was inspired by that scene in the movie ' Mother, Juggs and Speed' with Bill Cosby, Harvey Keitel and Raquel Welch. We were running some hairy calls, crime in the late 90's and early part of 2000's was way worse than it is now. That gun just stayed in that cabinet and no one ever used it. A few months later an anti-gun medic got on one of the other shifts because another medic left and he thought it was a horrible idea and made a stink about it (although he didn't go to fire dept or management) and the guy who had the most amount of money in it took it home and paid the other guys the $20 or $30 they had into it. I kinda thought about that gun in the same way, probably wouldn't be able to get to it unless we were sitting in that chair. Whatever was going to happen would probably happen in the house we went into. Had a couple short term partners that carried small personal guns on them despite the prohibitions on it because of some of the places (nursing homes, local jail, federal prison etc) we were picking up and dropping off at (hospitals or occasionally a psychiatric hospital). My partners knew I was into guns and that I wouldn't rat them out, I never carried on the box though. Just carried a knife (never used that except as a tool and for that it came in real handy) and a can of pepper spray (which I did use a couple times). Would have preferred to have the option to have a gun as many times it sure as hell didn't seem like the bad guys regarded us as ' neutral' anyway, that's not how the Texas Dept of Health or the (TX) Dept of Public Safety views it though. - Always wanted a Colt SP-1. One of my major gun regrets is not building a retro AR when the uppers and kits were cheap. - Hope that 'High Powered Pistol' bullshit doesn't go through. Even if the tax stamp is free that's just going to open Pandora's box and lead to nothing good. - In personal gun news the only thing I want to do is get all the guns I own now all squared away. Get optics on the ones that I'm going to get optics for, get a quality sling and light for the carbines and get a couple sights changed over and get an out-of-the-waistband holster for the Glock 17. Just basically all the little stuff done that I've been putting off for years. Selling guns right now sucks though (only way I'm getting anything is to sell something else), the market is bloated. So people basically want you to give that stuff away. |
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Post by as556 on Jun 7, 2015 7:13:12 GMT
Well, the main reason I had the gun was because I have a 1hr bus ride to and from work, so I'd holster up before getting on the bus. The store I work in is closed and locked up most of the night, so no worry from customers. I just decided to keep carrying my 4" folder and some Sabre Red gel.
I was found out at my last job when carrying a revolver AIWB in a holster with poor retention. Went to grab something in an awkward position and the gun fell right out and clattered across the floor. Yes, that really happened. Talk about awkward.
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Jun 7, 2015 14:18:07 GMT
Welp, I'm a whore. I found a very good quality 20" lightweight barrel that's chromelined at Fulton Armory. Let the SP1 games begin.
The only thing they don't have is the triangle handguards. Found them on another site for $50. $50 dollars!??!? The A1 upper is $75, stock kit is $85, barrel is $275 (YIKES!). I have the rest of the rifle in parts. Should be fun, need to find a repo 4x Colt that won't fall apart.
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Post by Browning35 on Jun 7, 2015 16:10:12 GMT
Well, the main reason I had the gun was because I have a 1hr bus ride to and from work, so I'd holster up before getting on the bus. The store I work in is closed and locked up most of the night, so no worry from customers. I just decided to keep carrying my 4" folder and some Sabre Red gel. I was found out at my last job when carrying a revolver AIWB in a holster with poor retention. Went to grab something in an awkward position and the gun fell right out and clattered across the floor. Yes, that really happened. Talk about awkward. Shit, the bus? Yeah, I'd bring a gun too. Sorry, but that situation got an LOL. That's something like out of a movie where in the next scene the guy is jobless. I had a couple situations like that when I was younger and going through jobs like they were going out of style. |
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