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Post by Gingerbread Man on Oct 22, 2014 22:57:57 GMT
Evidence supports officer’s account of shooting in Ferguson: www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-evidence-supports-officers-account-of-shooting-in-ferguson/2014/10/22/cf38c7b4-5964-11e4-bd61-346aee66ba29_story.html]http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-evidence-supports-officers-account-of-shooting-in-fergusonSeven or eight African American eyewitnesses have provided testimony consistent with Wilson’s account, but none of them have spoken publicly out of fear for their safety, The Washington Post’s sources said....... .......Tim Fitch, a former St. Louis County Police Chief, said there are benefits to leaking crucial information to the public ahead of a grand jury announcement. “I think it’s good to get some accurate information out there. That way on game day, it’s not a surprise to people,” [/b]said Fitch, who retired last year from the county police department, which is now conducting the investigation into Wilson. All that over a good shoot of a violent felon who attacked, repeatedly, a police officer. And now I'll over a suggestion to the 'protestors' in Ferguson, go help rebuild the businesses you destroyed because that would be the right thing to do since you were so wrong on this and fell for someone's hype and propaganda. |
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Post by dannusmaximus on Oct 22, 2014 23:39:33 GMT
Yeah, but it isn't going to stop the city from burning to the ground and more people getting hurt. Who cares what actual evidence says? Also from the story...
Benjamin L. Crump, a lawyer for the Brown family, said Brown’s family and supporters will not be persuaded by the autopsy report or eyewitness statements that back Wilson’s account of the incident.
“The family has not believed anything the police or this medical examiner has said,” Crump said. “They have their witnesses. We have seven witnesses that we know about that say the opposite.”
They are going to believe whatever they want to believe, facts be damned.
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Oct 22, 2014 23:48:55 GMT
The actual evidence shows and supports the officers account. Physical evidence. Nevermind, I'm talking to the choir, again.
I feel bad for the people who have to deal with this idiots and the people just living their lives there.
I heard during an interview about the ATF shooting a lady say "It's normal to hear gunshots around here, but this was different, it was really fast."
No gunshots should not be normal and you should move.
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Post by omegaman on Oct 23, 2014 0:17:22 GMT
Not surprised.
My only issue was the immediate militarized police response. Not so much for Ferguson's sake, but knowing that hardware can be readily and enthusiastically employed against civilians across the country. On the plus side, the police reaction in Ferguson is a good case-study for how to prepare for martial law.
Anyway, screw Brown. Asshat got what he deserved.
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Post by homerj on Oct 23, 2014 0:34:21 GMT
Is it time to grab the popcorn and watch how ZS takes these new revelations and the imminent acquittal?
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Oct 30, 2014 15:36:38 GMT
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Post by dannusmaximus on Nov 11, 2014 20:25:58 GMT
Sooooo....
I'm watching CNN about 30 seconds ago, and there is a press conference going on about how The Man in Ferguson is prepping for the inevitable rioting and looting that will take place after the grand jury has announced their decision (they didn't actually SAY 'inevitable', because that would be raycist, but it was strongly implied...).
One of anchors pointed out that The Man not only has to be prepared for wholesale violence in the case that Officer Wilson is NOT indicted, but also if he IS indicted - - the comparison was made between the civil unrest that occurs during celebrations of things like major sporting event wins. So, if Wilson is found to have been justified, the cities will burn in anger. If he is found instead to be not justified and charges will be pressed, the cities will burn in joy.
Nice.
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Post by Browning35 on Nov 11, 2014 21:17:29 GMT
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if he is indicted then nothing will happen. Are police supporters everywhere who think that Michael Brown and his entire family are a bunch of thugs and that he got exactly what was coming to him going to riot if Wilson is indicted? I'm kind of thinking not. Did you guys hear about Michael Brown's mother leading that mob attack and possibly being charged with armed robbery? www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/11/06/why-michael-browns-mom-could-be-charged-with-felony-armed-robbery/Guess the fruit didn't fall far from the tree. There's nothing like making money off the memory of your dead son by selling t-shirts with his image on there and becoming pissed off and assaulting and robbing someone when they're doing the same thing. |
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Post by dannusmaximus on Nov 12, 2014 1:05:55 GMT
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if he is indicted then nothing will happen. Are police supporters everywhere who think that Michael Brown and his entire family are a bunch of thugs and that he got exactly what was coming to him going to riot if Wilson is indicted? I'm kind of thinking not. I think the reporter was implying was that the folks who would burn the cities if he was NOT indicted would be the SAME folks who would burn the cities if he WAS indicted. Same group, same actions, just different reasons to justify those actions. At least that's how I took it. |
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Post by Browning35 on Nov 12, 2014 1:56:52 GMT
You mean a victory celebration. Like overturning cars when the Lakers win. Possible.
I took it like the other side would riot.
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Post by dannusmaximus on Nov 12, 2014 16:18:35 GMT
You mean a victory celebration. Like overturning cars when the Lakers win. Possible.I took it like the other side would riot. Right. Of course, this was CNN, so they might totally be implying that all the suburbanites will drive to downtown in their SUV's with stick family stickers in the rear windows and start torching the place. I mean, after all, to imply that a certain demographic is more prone to such action...?  Honestly, CNN is being so biased against law enforcement and so pro-thug in their coverage that this might make me a FOX watcher. At least in the short term. |
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Post by Browning35 on Nov 12, 2014 17:42:22 GMT
Communist News Network? Nah, say it ain't so? [blue/text in a just funnin sort of way]
I generally mix it up with news stations. MSNBC, CNN, BBC, Fox etc. That way I'm also seeing what the people I generally disagree with are seeing.
With Fox News the one thing that I like a little bit better with them is that they'll actually cover news stories that wouldn't receive any coverage at all from the others news stations.
Once Fox News gets to actually reporting it though sometimes their programming is just as slanted as the others depending on what issue they're talking about. You still have to read between the lines. I feel like Winston Smith from 1984.
In the 70's and 80's it seems like there was more of an effort to be somewhat impartial (unless it was something having to do with American foreign policy). Now there's been a total rejection of that ethic and they don't even maintain the pretense of impartiality anymore. Pretty much straight out about it now.
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Post by Browning35 on Nov 22, 2014 3:10:50 GMT
Found this . . . Lessons from Ferguson: Prepping for Civil Unrest and Martial Law (*Click*)Anatomy of a breakdown (*Click*)The first link is specific to the Ferguson, Missouri unrest, but I thought the second one interesting enough to be included. Also this. Some people in Ferguson being interviewed about the possible indictment (or lack of one)... •First guy (Don) starts @ 0.43 secs and he says " If the verdict is going to be just and it's going off what the witnesses saw and the proof that the scientists have given us then what's to prepare for?" I'm guessing he means discredited eyewitnesses like Dorian Johnson who have already shown that they've lied and who participated in a robbery minutes before the incident itself. Or the 'scientists' who found Brown's blood in the police car from when he was shot in the hand at close range which backs up Wilson's account that he was in the midst of a gun grab.•Next guy (Anthony Jones) starts @ 1:01 and he asks " I wonder how many other people are having to patronize businesses that are boarded up and you can't even see outside, but that say 'Open every day'?". •Third guy ('Lil Tony'. . . the business owner who actually boarded up his windows that the 2nd guy was talking about) starts @ 1:43 and he states that " the robbing and looting isn't the big issue . . . we just want some sort of justice...". Apparently people don't like patronizing businesses that have boarded up windows because they can't see outside and the robbing and looting "isn't a big deal". However on some level the business owner at least seems to realize that even if he donated to Brown's family or that he bought and wore his Lesley McSpadden Approved T-Shirt (*Click*), or says all the right things in public (perhaps his reason for doing the interview so that his business possibly gets avoided in any upcoming unrest) that he still might get assaulted by a group of local thugs and have his business looted or have his windows smashed by black hoodie wearing Anarchists who travel from one political or social drama in the US to another.
In short he and all those other business owners could still be victimized.Just saying . . . there's a huge disconnect between reality and what some of these people think ' justice' is, so I'm betting that this basic conflict isn't going to get resolved peacefully whether Wilson is indicted or not. A situation just like this will crop up somewhere else even if he's thrown to the wolves and it'll start up all over again. |
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Post by Browning35 on Nov 22, 2014 6:30:46 GMT
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Nov 24, 2014 23:21:23 GMT
I say acquittal. Then things git jiggy.
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