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Post by dannusmaximus on Nov 25, 2014 1:09:05 GMT
I say acquittal. Then things git jiggy. Concur. Glad my wife isn't on shift right now, even though I suspect the chance of any real unrest is slim to none in my AO. One of our local Rev's says there might be peaceful protest, but after the Trayvon Martin verdict he said the same thing, and it amounted to about 6 people standing in front of our civic center with signs. Still, best to not be in a squad car or big red truck tonight.
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Post by Browning35 on Nov 25, 2014 2:06:30 GMT
I'm watching the news right now and apparently the Wilson Grand Jury came to a decision. The authorities keep pushing back the news conference to release what their decision is/was.
The delay in notifying the public could possibly mean a couple things. . . • Officers and National Guard units aren't in place yet which are being deployed in case of possible unrest. Which would generally mean that the grand jury came to the decision to not indict (unless you're of the mindset that police supporters everywhere are going to take to the streets and fuck shit up ) • That the news made a mistake, the grand jury hasn't made a decision and the media jumped the gun due to some unsubstantiated leak. • That the authorities are in the process of reaching Brown's family to notify them one way or another about the grand jury's decision before making a public announcement.
Prediction : I don't think that he'll be indicted, they'll freak out as expected, they'll throw rocks and bottles as well as the occasional Molotov, they'll loot a few stores, burn a cop car and take pics of them standing on it and then in a few days the news will refer it it as a 'Peaceful Protest'.
What's funny is that some of the talking head guests have asked 'why does everyone expect violence?'
A : Probably because all of the rioting that has occurred up until now.
What? Do they think no one was watching the news and all the YouTube videos of looting, rock throwing, burning businesses for weeks and the occasional video of protestors firing a few shots and skeddadling and at least one of them doing a mag dump from a semi-auto centerfire rifle at the police?
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Nov 25, 2014 2:36:21 GMT
No indictment. Good, now all police, firefighters and anyone else in a Leo function keep your head on a swivel.
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Post by Browning35 on Nov 25, 2014 3:15:00 GMT
Well...that didn't take long.
Prosecutor Robert McCulloch wasn't even a fourth of the way through with his statement to the media when the protestors started throwing rocks and bottles at the police.
Two cop cars were smashed into oblivion and members of the crowd were pouring lighter fluid inside one of the cars to light it up when the police re-took the scene with a combo of shotgun and AR armed officers and some in riot gear.
CNN is reporting multiple shots fired from two different scenes. The shots were close enough to hear at the news crews location for one of the shootings.
Chaos. Go figure.
'Why does everyone think that there will be violence?'
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Post by rickoshea on Nov 25, 2014 4:07:51 GMT
Some CNN reporter-girl is having bottles thrown at her.....but she says she "feels safe". I wonder if any of those news crews have security, or is it just the reporter and camera crew? I heard another news crew say earlier that they were all wearing "boolit-proof vests".
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Nov 25, 2014 17:43:59 GMT
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Post by Browning35 on Nov 25, 2014 21:27:42 GMT
Some CNN reporter-girl is having bottles thrown at her.....but she says she "feels safe". I wonder if any of those news crews have security, or is it just the reporter and camera crew? I heard another news crew say earlier that they were all wearing "boolit-proof vests". Yeah, CNN is pretty stupid all around in a few different ways. You guys watching the new Ferguson riots on the news last night and then the talking heads today? I like how CNN was saying over and over again last night and again this morning that these are ' peaceful protests'. Then on top of that the News Ticker/Tagline at the bottom of the screen has the same basic wording (' Peaceful Protests after Officer Wilson is not indicted') while there's a live shot of a police car burning in the background and of protestors hurling bricks at a line of police, looting local stores and then burning them to the ground. ' Peaceful Protests' . . . What bullshit!!! So police being shot at and having bricks and bottles thrown at them, looters stealing everything that isn't nailed down, arsonists lighting private vehicles / cop cars / businesses on fire, people having rocks and bricks thrown at them and being beat up and knocked unconscious, but it's ' Peaceful' . . . . OkaySorry, I'm a bad person. I kind of laughed @ 1:24 Violence in Ferguson after no indictment announced (*Click*)
Violence in Ferguson after no indictment announced - Photo gallery (*Click*) __________________
Why I killed Michael Brown (*Click* ) ___________________Also there's this . . . Officer wounded in shooting near Ferguson (*Click*)It's unknown if the attempted murder of the officer was rated to the rioting. Crazy shit.
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Nov 25, 2014 23:10:42 GMT
Wait til it's the checks will not roll out this month.
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Post by homerj on Nov 26, 2014 7:40:46 GMT
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Post by Browning35 on Nov 26, 2014 16:38:10 GMT
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Nov 26, 2014 17:39:45 GMT
Interesting. Most feel this is not positive for race relations, grand jury was right and none of the rioting was justified.
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Post by omegaman on Nov 26, 2014 18:09:17 GMT
Interesting. Most feel this is not positive for race relations, grand jury was right and none of the rioting was justified. The media (and this includes Fox News and MSNBC) have absolutely no connection with the thoughts and feelings of most Americans. This entire situation has been exacerbated by the media and politicians in order to create an issue that fits an overall agenda (mostly fanning the flames of racial tensions--the likes of which are never an issue until community organizers create these issues) and get ratings. These commie agitators, news babes, and race pimps are completely unaware of the fact that the majority of hard-working Americans (outside of Ferguson) do not give a shit about Ferguson. Furthermore, I posit that this same demographic likely feels that piece of shit Brown got what he deserved and residual effects of these "peaceful protests" have left an overall unfavorable opinion of black urban youth. As I and many others went off to work this morning, I doubt much empathy was had for a criminal who was killed while assaulting a police officer; but were thinking, "what is wrong with those people"--and yes, I mean "those" people. I am just sick and tired of the division in this country and the ignorant masses that buy into the "us vs. them" propaganda perpetuated by the minority of loudmouth Communists and radicals who salivate over these unfortunate and terrible events. But, that's just one guy's opinion Thank you, officer Wilson for taking out the trash. Kudos to the grand jury, too.
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Post by Browning35 on Nov 26, 2014 18:43:40 GMT
Check it out @ the 1:10 min mark. Woman talks some looters and arsonists out of smashing the windows and burning the building while another woman yells “ She better move! That shit is not that serious. That ain’t your business! Oh my god! She gonna put her life in danger? Over a Papa John’s?”
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Post by Browning35 on Nov 26, 2014 18:53:30 GMT
Read this article . . . Officer Darren Wilson's story is unbelievable. Literally. (*Click* ) . . . and then watch this video and tell me what leaps out at you. I don't see what's so unbelievable about Wilson's account. The author of that piece of shitjournalism just obviously hasn't ever had an encounter with people like that. They aren't afraid of arrest and they know that the police aren't really likely to do anything else (like shoot them) either during this riot or out on the street normally. Self restraint generally gets the better of the police. I mean listen to that cop on the bullhorn . . . ' Stop throwing objects at the police immediately or you will be subject to arrest' ' you need to exit the street immediately and stop throwing objects at law enforcement.' ' you need to stop throwing objects at the police immediately, do it now' ' disperse immediately and stop throwing objects or you will be subject to arrest' Does anyone even pretend to comply? Nope. It's basically a joke, ' Stop or I'll say stop again'. Even if arrested it doesn't matter, most of those guys are involved in a revolving cycle of incarceration-release-probation/parole-incarceration anyway. They don't fear arrest, not that big a deal. The only thing that deters them right then is getting pepper sprayed, getting shot with a beanbag or getting shot for real. Obviously doesn't deter them *that* much, but they didn't try mowing the police line down with AK's and some of these guys are armed as they were posting pics on social media posing with them after the August riots. It's the same thing with Michael Brown, he didn't fear Wilson as he felt he could kick his ass and figured that he probably wouldn't shoot him. In that particular case he thought wrong, but look at the above video. They're mostly betting right. Outside of having a gun and shooting at the police they know that they won't be shot. So they're free to burn people's business to the ground after they loot it, throw shit at the police and all basically for some obscure goal of making people uncomfortable. Reporter : ' What's your objective?' Protestor number 1 : ' Our objective right now is to just to create turmoil' Protestor number 2 : ' His objective right now is to make everybody uncomfortable because we've been uncomfortable our whole damn lives' - Also sick of the Michael Brown supporters using the word ' unarmed' like it means something. If I'm 6'5 and 289 lbs and I get within your reaction gap where you're stuck in a seated position and I start beating you in the face and grab your gun I'm no longer ' unarmed'. That means we're grappling for your fucking gun. People get killed all the time getting their head slammed into concrete and from getting punched. You don't have to shoot someone in the head with a Sig .40 S&W to kill them or be a threat. Rant over, but this is some irritating shit.
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Nov 26, 2014 18:59:54 GMT
@ 3:05 "He dint deserve to die over no rillos! We out ere, man, we out ere!" Young man, that's not proper English. They actually wonder why no one wants to hire them. *Shakes head* And let's illistrate B35's point about being unarmed. Anyone think that matters with me? Multiple black belts, 230lbs, 5'11" and I can bench 285 three times. Without the MMA SKILLZ I'd still be a handful for most anyone. Especially if you're not expecting an attack, really, Wilson is lucky to be alive, by rights he should be dead or in the hosptial after a mob beating. ETA: "SWAT teamz skeerd" said hundreds of yards away. Last Edit: They're such bad asses too. They get a minor wafting of teargas and they disappear.
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