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Post by bearcat on Nov 5, 2013 4:18:30 GMT
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Nov 5, 2013 11:15:36 GMT
They have a lot of traction with this shooting and the shooting at LAX. Sure is strange that we so many shooting. Too many causes to take into account why people do this but it seems the more gun control someone wants the more gun problems we have.
Appears the guy wanted to commit suicide in a grandeous fashion.
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Post by omegaman on Nov 5, 2013 20:52:49 GMT
Why do all of these shootings happen in states and cities with the most restrictive gun control laws? Seriously, WTF?
Of special note, the last few years they have coincidentally correlated when public opinion of the current Dear Leader is at its lowest. No tinfoil, just an honest observation.
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Post by bearcat on Nov 5, 2013 22:16:11 GMT
Why do all of these shootings happen in states and cities with the most restrictive gun control laws? You mean criminals don't obey the law? Shocking. |
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Nov 5, 2013 22:49:41 GMT
Of special note, the last few years they have coincidentally correlated when public opinion of the current Dear Leader is at its lowest. No tinfoil, just an honest observation. I don't think it's tinfoil to note that, it's a fact. I forget where I saw it but I'll find it however, there have been more mass shooting under the Dear Leader (Not this Dear Leader) than under almost any other president. Honestly, I think the course he's chosen is stressing everyone out. No one knows that the future holds and the "changes" being forced upon us makes us feel uncertain. I feel it. I don't like that someone is forcing a change that I'm not willing nor want to participate in. Now couple that with an already unsound mind and things may go sour. Just my opinion, can't prove a thing. |
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Post by RTF Squared on Nov 6, 2013 3:08:02 GMT
I hate to say stuff like this, but ever since Newtown I have really quit paying much attention to any news involving these new shootings. Nobody has facts straight, they move straight to conjecture to score some ratings and readers at the expense of any responsible reporting. I came to the conclusion that the facts around Newtown were never going to be set in stone and crucial realities concerning weapon restrictions and statistics in regards to the shootings were going to remain perpetually ignored. Just about anything on the news plugs my BS filter and makes me wonder what is being covered up.
The article posted is full of journalistic irresponsibility. The headline "Christie: N.J. mall shooting shows need for stronger mental health treatment" is political propaganda and a campaign as in one shot. Of course somebody is already prepared to stand on graves to push their political agenda. Perfect time for a governor seeking election to put in a little soundbite concerning this horrible tragedy and what his political stance is on mental health in regards to shooting. We get to listen to a whole campaign speech before the article even mentions what city it took place in.
Of course the article that has actual news will make me sit through a nice advert from Jeep before I have the pleasure of hearing the stories of smiling witnesses to a blacked out gear wearing, Sig Sauer modified to look like an AK toting nutjob. Because they can't give a person any "news" without turning a profit on it.
Seriously, are there any news sources that are legit anymore? It seems like everything is either MSM distraction or straight tinfoil. It's to the point that I literally follow zero news sources because I find nothing trustworthy.
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Nov 6, 2013 12:23:19 GMT
You know, I don't think there are any legitimate news outlets. I think the only way to know what's going on is to read from 3-4 sources that have different bias's, listen to radio outlets and foreign news sources. Then stew on it yourself, forumlate an opinion based on the based "facts" and then review the story after the dust settles. I normally wait until a law enforcement source or some source that has rules about what they can present as facts. The problem as you stated with the media is they have to make money so they have to be sensational. A great lesson I just learned for myself was the story surrounding Ben Ghazi. What came out first is wildly different from what actually happened. And I'm even more pissed now.  I need to get us a laughing smily. Maybe this one:  |
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Post by RTF Squared on Nov 6, 2013 17:24:13 GMT
Glad to see at least I'm not alone in distrusting news. Looks like we have a similar process for interpreting "news." After the LEO 's formal statement after Newtown (forgot what position he held) I stopped trusting their take on things too.
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Post by MrEMonkey on Dec 15, 2013 22:19:59 GMT
Why do all of these shootings happen in states and cities with the most restrictive gun control laws? Seriously, WTF? Of special note, the last few years they have coincidentally correlated when public opinion of the current Dear Leader is at its lowest. No tinfoil, just an honest observation. Getting shot by an armed citizen kinda gets in the way of that whole "mass shooting" thing.  |
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Post by shiddymunkie on Dec 22, 2013 6:21:43 GMT
I was in a discussion with an someone about this topic a few months back. My stance was that people are ultimately responsible for their own safety (and thus should have some means of protecting themselves), and his stance was your typical "anti-gun" stuff. Anyway, while most of those arguments are relatively easy to refute, this one particular argument actually got me thinking. He said:
"Ok, suppose that guns become like cell phones and most people start carry one with them everywhere they go. Now imagine that something like the Aurora Theater shooting happens -- how do you think that would actually play out in real life? A shooter comes in, starts blasting into the crowd, and everyone in the theater pulls out their own gun...then what? The room is crowded, dark, most have little-to-no training or experience dealing with that sort of thing, no one can really tell who's a good guy with a gun and who's another bad guy with a gun, and everyone is absolutely terrified and pumped full of adrenaline. Yeah, that'll end well."
And while that argument didn't refute any of the points I had made earlier about self defense, it had some legitimacy to it. If everyone started CCing for self protection, would this armed public be able to handle a situation like that without making it worse? I'd like to think so, but in some cases I'm not that sure.
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Post by Browning35 on Dec 22, 2013 18:18:24 GMT
Glad to see at least I'm not alone in distrusting news. Looks like we have a similar process for interpreting "news." I don't think I know anyone that trusts the mainstream media. It's almost like in 1984 where Winston Smith has a process for interpreting the news and what it'll mean for the average person. - As for CHL's just require more training. They could stuff quite a bit of training in a two day pistol course. The range portion currently is a joke. I saw people that had rds splattered all over the target pass. The majority of the people I went through showed some decent marksmanship and fire discipline. Seemed like either they were like me and they'd been shooting their whole life or they were prior military and they'd been shooting most of their life. There were a couple people I would've personally failed though. |
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I need to get us a laughing smily. Maybe this one: 
