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Post by as556 on Dec 10, 2015 16:24:11 GMT
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Post by dannusmaximus on Dec 10, 2015 16:36:43 GMT
Thanks for posting, Tony. I DO NOT like the SWAT-T (it's what we carry in our FD first-in bags) for a variety of reasons, but I do realize it's a proven product. Much prefer the CAT. I have STILL never used a hemostatic outside of the ER (we use surgicel for minor bleeding control there).
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Post by as556 on Dec 10, 2015 16:40:03 GMT
I'm more an advocate of the SWAT simply due to cost and that it is multi fuction, otherwise I think the CAT sounds great.
Would you mind explaining the issues you've run into with the SWAT? Its my main TQ so any first hand info is appreciated.
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Post by dannusmaximus on Dec 10, 2015 22:28:37 GMT
I'm more an advocate of the SWAT simply due to cost and that it is multi fuction, otherwise I think the CAT sounds great. Would you mind explaining the issues you've run into with the SWAT? Its my main TQ so any first hand info is appreciated. Properly applied the SWAT does it's job, Tony, you won't run into any issues as far as that. I also like that you can use it as a badass compression bandage. My main hiccups are: * I think it is MUCH harder than the CAT to self-apply, especially on an arm. I've never gotten particularly good application if I was attempting it one-handed. This might simply be a training and practice issue on my part, but the CAT self-applies very easily IMO. * I like that if you don't initially the CAT tight enough for bleeding control you can just turn the windlass more. If you don't get a SWAT tight enough on the first go, you have to at least partially unwrap it to get more stretch. * The SWAT takes up more room on the limb (it's wider than the CAT), which means you can't place it up as high on the extremity (I guess you could fold it in half, lengthwise?). I carry TQ's in my range bag and GHB primarily with the thought of self-application. As such, being able to apply the TQ one-handed is a primary goal for me. The CAT hands-down applies more easily one-handed, IMO, so it's my go to. That said, the SWAT is a proven bleed-stopper, so I won't bad mouth it. I WOULD encourage you to practice one-handed application with it if that is part of your plan. |
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Post by red on Dec 11, 2015 1:46:04 GMT
How do yall carry ya SWAT type TQ?
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Post by dannusmaximus on Dec 11, 2015 3:29:56 GMT
How do yall carry ya SWAT type TQ? In original package, stuffed in a pouch in our medic bag. |
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Post by as556 on Dec 11, 2015 22:23:53 GMT
Those are good points, I've practiced a few times and one handed on the arm is definitely not easy at all. Much better on the leg. I was kind of thinking of the SWAT to be used either by someone else on me or me on them, but that's silly to assume I'll never have to self apply so I think I'll get two CATs and standardize on the SWAT and CAT. Thanks.
Red I keep mine in the original package flat in my back pocket, looks like a wallet. I also have one rolled up and secured with a rubber band, it fits perfectly in pistol magazine and flashlight pouches on chest rigs, plate carriers etc.
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