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Post by LowKey on Dec 28, 2014 10:04:36 GMT
Ummm.....why not just apply for a tax stamp and have an SBR? Clearly you enjoy shooting a short barreled AR from the shoulder.
If you're dealing with a local CLEO that's a PITA just do up a trust and use the ATF's E-forms site.
I don't believe you won't be spending at least $200 over the next year on an AR build (how much are you going to spend on that 16inch barrel?) , so why not drop it on a stamp and be able to keep and use the upper?
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Post by MrEMonkey on Dec 28, 2014 22:01:57 GMT
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Post by MrEMonkey on Dec 29, 2014 23:36:15 GMT
Right?
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Post by MrEMonkey on Dec 30, 2014 2:10:47 GMT
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Post by omegaman on Dec 30, 2014 2:38:06 GMT
Shit, guess I better pony up $200 and register my weaver stance. Clownshoes.
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Dec 30, 2014 2:41:34 GMT
Please let the NFA come up in front of a federal judge/court. Burn in flames.
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Post by homerj on Dec 30, 2014 3:07:21 GMT
Tax stamp is a no go for me, not worth it when I pcs every 3-4 years. I dont know if a trust is worth pursuing either, to be honest the concept of a sbr/pistol isn't worth the hastle and atf fuckery for me. It was cool to try out the new hotness and have the satisfaction (real or imagined) of sticking it to the atf. But aside from that I can't say that I would really miss my ar pistol. Ive seen more and more opinion articles saying nothing has really changed since it is the intent of the device (ie sig brace used as intended pistol brace) that really detemines whether it is a pistol or sbr. www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/12/foghorn/calm-pistol-brace-ruling-hasnt-changed/I'm still on the fence, part of me agrees with this article and another part of me wants to get ahead of this and take my money and run. As unpredictable and insane as atf opinion rulings are I am kinda leaning towards getting my money back.
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Post by as556 on Dec 30, 2014 3:20:18 GMT
..... I am kinda leaning towards getting my money back. That's what I did. Not really into being on file with the .gov, myself. Just my opinion, of course. I wouldn't want less than 11.5" anyway and now I have a 14.5" and don't really feel like getting butt raped for 3" of bbl.
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Post by homerj on Dec 30, 2014 4:26:01 GMT
Exactly... allot can still happen in the next two years. I'm feeling out a few trades one offer for a stag model 8 piston ar or a Remington 700 bdl in 30-06 with nikon glass.
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Post by MrEMonkey on Dec 30, 2014 6:23:54 GMT
Please let the NFA come up in front of a federal judge/court. Burn in flames. I'll bring marshmallows.
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Post by RTF Squared on Dec 30, 2014 8:17:22 GMT
Does that 60 for the brace include the pistol tube?
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Dec 30, 2014 11:14:12 GMT
Please let the NFA come up in front of a federal judge/court. Burn in flames. I'll bring marshmallows. I'm very hopeful because it's never been in front of a federal judge/court. There are more than a few cases addressing the NFA headed that way. It's a poorly written/enforced law. There are more than a few law dawgs that say it contradicts itself therefore is just bad law. Kumbaya, my lord, kumbaya... MEBBE OM can bring his guitar? Everybody! Kumbaya, burn the NFA, kumbaya.
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Post by as556 on Dec 30, 2014 13:37:37 GMT
Sorry RTF, already sold. It did include the tube, though.
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Post by MrEMonkey on Dec 30, 2014 18:31:08 GMT
I'm very hopeful because it's never been in front of a federal judge/court. There are more than a few cases addressing the NFA headed that way. It's a poorly written/enforced law. There are more than a few law dawgs that say it contradicts itself therefore is just bad law. Kumbaya, my lord, kumbaya... MEBBE OM can bring his guitar? Everybody! Kumbaya, burn the NFA, kumbaya. No doubt about that. I hope you're right, and I would love to see it burn.
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Post by LowKey on Dec 30, 2014 20:02:55 GMT
I keep thinking the legal phrase , "...shall not be infringed" which has also been the subject of many successful acts of litigation would carry the day without any other argument needed.
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