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Post by NamelessStain on Dec 4, 2013 18:29:53 GMT
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Dec 5, 2013 12:03:59 GMT
My kids are in Common Core (CC) right now. They're are some people complaining because they're kids went from doing ok to doing poorly. It also requires a good bit of parental involvement but it's not over burdening. I can't formulate an opinion on it as of yet. I don't like getting the mandatory forms I have to fill out. That's BS but those were around before CC. Both my kids are in honors programs and are on the honor rolls. If anything, they're doing better under common core. I personally think they're doing better because they're not around kids with behavior issues which is distracting in class. I remember my son telling me about the kids who'd run around the class and fall asleep. Yeah, some people aren't the best parents. At all. Really, I don't think another program is the solution to the education problem. I think they should make education something you have to earn. IF you don't maintain a certain grade level, meet certain markers or have behavioral issue, then you get sent home and your absentie parents can deal with you. From what I gather, most teachers spend hours a day on a small group of students and their behavoir issues. My kids and their friends find it very, very distracting. Remove the distraction from the kids who are learning and watch them thrive. Since my kids have been in honors and not around the bad kids, they've been doing great. Harsh, I don't think so. Education is not a right. It can't be because it requires someone to do something for you, therefore it's a privilege. If you abuse the privilege, don't do your personal best or abuse the privilege then you're nothing more than a burden on the system. That's not fair or just for the people who are engaged in the program. My take so far.
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Post by NamelessStain on Dec 6, 2013 11:57:48 GMT
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Dec 6, 2013 12:29:58 GMT
So far they're asking if you're liberal or conservative, rich or poor. Okay, any theories as to why they're asking these questions? Seems a poor liberal could be just as worried as a rich conservative. I personally feel the govt. should not have this sort of information. It's dangerous and a clear infringement on 4th amendment however that doesn't answer the WHY?
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Post by NamelessStain on Dec 6, 2013 12:45:19 GMT
So far they're asking if you're liberal or conservative, rich or poor. Okay, any theories as to why they're asking these questions? Seems a poor liberal could be just as worried as a rich conservative. I personally feel the govt. should not have this sort of information. It's dangerous and a clear infringement on 4th amendment however that doesn't answer the WHY? Grade redistribution? No, it's not blue text.
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Post by omegaman on Dec 6, 2013 18:06:25 GMT
So far they're asking if you're liberal or conservative, rich or poor. Okay, any theories as to why they're asking these questions? Seems a poor liberal could be just as worried as a rich conservative. I personally feel the govt. should not have this sort of information. It's dangerous and a clear infringement on 4th amendment however that doesn't answer the WHY? Grade redistribution? No, it's not blue text. Thanks, you almost made me blow PBR out my nose! Although, it's a very scary and highly probable possibility
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Post by NamelessStain on Dec 6, 2013 18:15:27 GMT
Grade redistribution? No, it's not blue text. Thanks, you almost made me blow PBR out my nose! Although, it's a very scary and highly probable possibility Sadly it's quite easy.... Average the entire class and give out that grade to everyone. I need to find the article which a Social Sciences professor did this as an experiment with his class. Needless to say it didn't work since the hard studying people stopped giving a shit and dropped the class.
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Post by nxp on Dec 7, 2013 2:15:10 GMT
Nameless - I remember that article, it started out with a reasonable spread and then rapidly (like faster than exponentially but not logarithmic) declined to a failing average. Complete flop, those that got out early were the lucky ones if I recall.
GM - I've long believed that teachers spend 90% of their time with the wrong 10% of the class. Get rid of the distractions, focused/engaged learning in small groups is the way to go. I see absolutely no value in asking questions regarding political or economic associations when it comes to education (though sadly, if it's public education they can/will weasel whatever they want into the curriculum).
Pro-concept, anti-"pay-no-attention-to-the-wizard-behind-the-curtain"
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Post by NamelessStain on Dec 8, 2013 13:39:06 GMT
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Post by nxp on Dec 8, 2013 19:51:52 GMT
Is it acceptable to answer the question with an equation? Otherwise, I'll default to my usual answer when proposed an asinine question from someone who meant well but doesn't understand what they're asking (happens frequently in my line of work) - Sure.
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Post by NamelessStain on Apr 4, 2014 16:21:34 GMT
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Post by dannusmaximus on Apr 9, 2014 14:09:08 GMT
I thank my lucky stars every single day that I'm not A) a teacher, or B) a parent
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Post by NamelessStain on Jun 6, 2014 10:53:23 GMT
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Post by NamelessStain on Jun 19, 2014 10:54:51 GMT
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