So what does everyone think about charlottesville?

I think that a group of people, some of whom have ideologies I find repugnant, had their 1st Amendment right to peaceable assembly and free speech effectively denied by an elected city official; an official who also effectively, and I suspect knowingly, paved the way for a group of violent thugs who advocate the use of violence to silence any opinions they do not share to initiate violence and brutally attack the first group.
Because many of the beliefs of the first group are found repugnant to the majority of Americans, I suspect the organizers on the left expect that they will be able to use this to distract attention from the fact that this second group committed civil rights violations and seek to set precedent for silencing in the future, by any means including violence, anyone else with whom they do not agree as long as they can claim the persons being silenced are "bad".
They're also going to try and destroy anyone who attempts to defend the free speech of the first group, regardless of how strongly and clearly the defender may point out that he or she despises the beliefs of the first group and that said defense is only motivated by the knowledge that all speech must be protected, good and bad, if we are to maintain 1st Amendment protection of speech if we are to continue to be a free society.


If this sort of thing is allowed to occur again without serious repercussions against those trying to shut down fee speech it can only lead to one of two things:
1- The end of America as a free society and nation as an ever increasing spiraling trend of silencing "offensive" speech will result in only the most easily offended having their way and everyone else forced to acquiesce to their demands, leaving they and their whims as the only law of the land.
2- Brutal physical violence between individuals and groups who perceive the other to have opposing opinions, a civil war or wave of domestic guerrilla attacks.

Lowkey said it better than i could. I guess some speech is more free than others...

Everything just sucks, now. I'll be in my bubble.

That's definitely how it looked from the riot footage.

Ran across this which seems to be a fairly unbiased source and here are his observations.



The judges ruled in the demonstrators favor, as a result the city was basically stuck with allowing the rally to happen. So the police allowed the Alt-Right to enter the park, but they set up an extremely narrow corridor where they had to run a gauntlet that was unmanned by police to get into the park. This is where the majority of violence happened at the beginning of the day. The police stood down on the orders of the major and let them fight for hours. 

They then declared it an illegal gathering after not separating the two sides and having the predictable results occur. The demonstrators were then forced to disperse through the antifa/BLM/communist lines with widespread pockets of fighting and this is when Heather Heyer was killed.

Motor Vehicle Collision While Fleeing Antifa or Possibly Using The Vehicle To Ram Counter-Protestors : It looks like James Fields was driving normally until his car was hit by clubs at which point he accelerated to get away when there was the collision and multiple auto-pedestrian accidents.

However it's also possible that he raged out after an entire day of high tension and violence, that he was at high risk for doing so given his mental health history and that he went all berserker after his beloved car started getting smashed up. Who knows?

Concur.

What  bothers me to say is that in all of this the fucking Nazi's have been in the right.  Not that I'm agreeing with or supporting their particular brand of identity politics but that they've been in the right as far as exercise of free speech, following proper legal procedures for getting permits and filing appeals, and generally following the rules. 
How screwed up does a side have to be that their conduct makes Nazi's look like reasonable people in comparison ?