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Post by NamelessStain on Mar 13, 2014 17:09:35 GMT
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Mar 14, 2014 11:44:09 GMT
Well, great. Thing is, okay, how are you going to figure out which 9. That would tell a malcontent that they need to hit as many as they can.
I've heard for awhile it would be a long time with lights out because we don't manufacture the transformers needed to get the stations back up and would have to come from China by boat. I call BS, dollars to donut we have some stashed and would fly a C5 to China to pick up anything necessary to repair the sites.
Not sure on this one.
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Post by NamelessStain on Mar 14, 2014 15:38:19 GMT
At my last office we talked about this during one of our "what if" scenarios such as a carrington event. People who participated estimated anywhere from 6 months to 25 years to get back to where we are today. I estimated 12 years based on the processes I see that would need to happen:
* Raw materials would have to be manufactured. This would include possibly getting vehicles running again and getting minerals from the ground.
* Getting the factories up and running again. Once some of this gear shuts down for prolonged time, it has to be stripped down and rebuilt.
* Prioritizing resources (such as power for the plants and processed materials) you know there will be many people needing copper wiring to get up and running.
* Power plants are going to have to be decommissioned during this time. I would hope they would start with nuclear plants to prevent accidents while the grid is down.
* Supply,installation of parts, and skilled workforce. So, who is going to worry about going to work when they have to worry about food and supplies for their families?
There are way too many factors to say 6 months. Of course the failures in the 9 substations will cause a cascade effect which would take out all other substations by overloading them when the power is rerouted by the system. So it's not 9 you have to fix, it's 50k. Some sectors are going to have to be shut down for an extended time in order to allow factories and other critical infrastructure to operate. Just think of how much the oil industry is going to need to process crude oil into diesel/gas just to move the parts to where they need to be installed.
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Mar 14, 2014 16:35:15 GMT
Sounds like job opportunities.
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Post by NamelessStain on Mar 14, 2014 18:03:57 GMT
Definitely job ops. I think the whole power grid needs to be redesigned if this happens (or sooner so it doesn't happen).
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Mar 14, 2014 18:11:41 GMT
Didn't we do something to the power grid in Iraq when we smacked them? I can't recall.
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Post by NamelessStain on Mar 15, 2014 1:20:09 GMT
If I remember correctly we took out the power plants closest to Baghdad. Years ago the Iraqis had a nuclear plant, but Israel took care of that during Operation Opera: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_OperaThey never rebuilt it. Iraq is about the same size and population as California. California uses approximately 300,000 Gigawatt hours ( energyalmanac.ca.gov/electricity/ ) and apparently Iraq is going to triple it's electricity output to 27 Gigawatt hours by 2015 ( www.eia.gov/countries/country-data.cfm?fips=iz ) Yea, Iraq uses approximately 10% of the electricity of CA with the same population and area. So 3-4 years to rebuild Iraq's electricity, so X10 for just CA, 30-40 years? And that was with the USA manufacturing base not being affected. /shudder |
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