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Post by omegaman on Dec 21, 2016 11:27:58 GMT
Think about some lifeboat (SOS) rations like Mainstay. Say one "pack" per person. Very calorie dense, no cooking required, doesn't really care about storage temps, ridiculously long shelf life. I think mr. Dark mentioned those above. I have shared many a mainstay with the Darkness on the trails...I actually think he likes them!
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Post by LowKey on Dec 21, 2016 13:20:19 GMT
Think about some lifeboat (SOS) rations like Mainstay. Say one "pack" per person. Very calorie dense, no cooking required, doesn't really care about storage temps, ridiculously long shelf life. I think mr. Dark mentioned those above. I have shared many a mainstay with the Darkness on the trails...I actually think he likes them! You're right, he did. Complete reading fail on my part. BTW...has anyone ever tried crushing up a mainstay bar and mixing with water to make a "porridge" or "pudding" type food?
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Post by Browning35 on Dec 21, 2016 14:10:12 GMT
So what's in the STOMP bag?
(Just curious and I like comparing medical kits)
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Post by dannusmaximus on Dec 21, 2016 16:53:08 GMT
I think mr. Dark mentioned those above. I have shared many a mainstay with the Darkness on the trails...I actually think he likes them! You're right, he did. Complete reading fail on my part. BTW...has anyone ever tried crushing up a mainstay bar and mixing with water to make a "porridge" or "pudding" type food? Especially good for geriatric survivalists on the run from their nursing home!
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Post by LowKey on Dec 21, 2016 18:34:27 GMT
You're right, he did. Complete reading fail on my part. BTW...has anyone ever tried crushing up a mainstay bar and mixing with water to make a "porridge" or "pudding" type food? Especially good for geriatric survivalists on the run from their nursing home! Failing to prepare for something is preparing to fail for.....something something something. Dammit. Actually I was thinking about stuff like younger kids, ill persons, mouth/jaw injury, and just plain old dietary exhaustion*. Also a way of getting a "hot meal" out of it in cold weather (canteen cup, boiling water, ration bar). *I think thats the term for it.....bored with something to the point you'd rather starve than eat more of it.
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Post by dannusmaximus on Dec 21, 2016 20:28:53 GMT
No, I was definitely just kidding, totally tracking on what you are saying. I have some Mayday ration bars in my car breakdown bag, Apple cinnamon flavor. They are pretty powdery to begin with. Crushed up, add hot water, maybe a little powdered milk and a few packets of sugar, would probably be very acceptable for almost any age group. Definitely easier to eat if you got slugged in the jaw running from Agent Smith and are dealing with a mouthful of broken teeth.
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Post by LowKey on Dec 22, 2016 13:01:15 GMT
Here's another thing to consider (and you EMT types might have a better take on this)....and you may want to get a snack as this might run a bit long. I know I tend to make the assumption that if I need the contents of my cashe I may in the worst case be "naked" so to speak, as in being in need of complete resupply; footwear and clothing wrecked, empty pockets, no weapons or equipment. I throw in conditions such as tired, cold, hungry, and thirsty, and maybe a few minor scratches. What about the possibility of being more seriously injured? Seriously ill (bad case of the flu, pneumonia, dysentery, or other A list player)? How about malnutrition/vitamin deficiencies? Aren't we most likely to be injured at the start of the emergency rather than later on? If you started in an area that had widespread structural damage aren't you most likely to suffer your worst lacerations, broken bones, dislocations, and concussions during the event and while trying to get out of the area that's been trashed vs screwing yourself up a week later walking along a game trail? Especially if you were separated from your BOB/INCH when everything went pear shaped? What condition might someone escaping from a Katrina type disaster be in if they'd been injured or trapped for a few weeks or months without adequate supplies (say he was a prepper but his stuff was washed away or stolen) and now needed to hoof it out without relying on .gov Or someone in the coastal PNW after a major Cascadia Subduction Zone Quake-Tsunami one-two punch? Or a "small" N-bomb detonated in a harbor? Heck how about a real deal ICBM hit? All of the "not as likely" type of disaster but still quite possible and all are types of disasters likely to overwhelm emergency response. While I agree completely we should worry first about the things more likely to go wrong like house fires, lay-offs, seasonal floods....once you've installed the smoke alarms and fire extinguishers, once you've stored all your important docs in a fireproof box and packed BOBs, once you've made sure your house health and life insurance is paid up it's time to start prepping for the less likely to occur but much more devastating stuff. Stuff where it might not be that far fetched that no one is able to come help you. So what about including stuff in the cache that you'd not really consider putting in a BOB or an INCH? Think of it as a second barrel filled with what you might need to do patch and fatten yourself up before you start hoofing it on down the road? Medical stuff that you wouldn't put in your pack unless there was someone needing that treatment right then. Heavier, but tastier, food to have a good hot meal before pushing off. Maybe something like a game cart that you could use to someone who was injured, small children, or packs. Maybe turn the cashe into a temporary mini-BOL?
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Post by scbrian on Dec 22, 2016 15:32:41 GMT
Maybe something like a game cart that you could use to someone who was injured, small children, or packs. Maybe turn the cashe into a temporary mini-BOL? I was just thinking that last night. The addition of a cart of some type will allow for more gear in the can, and the ability to move the contents to wherever you need them...
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Post by Browning35 on Dec 22, 2016 15:51:07 GMT
Here's another thing to consider (and you EMT types might have a better take on this)....and you may want to get a snack as this might run a bit long. I know I tend to make the assumption that if I need the contents of my cashe I may in the worst case be "naked" so to speak, as in being in need of complete resupply; footwear and clothing wrecked, empty pockets, no weapons or equipment. I throw in conditions such as tired, cold, hungry, and thirsty, and maybe a few minor scratches. What about the possibility of being more seriously injured? Seriously ill (bad case of the flu, pneumonia, dysentery, or other A list player)? How about malnutrition/vitamin deficiencies? Aren't we most likely to be injured at the start of the emergency rather than later on? - Or someone in the coastal PNW after a major Cascadia Subduction Zone Quake-Tsunami one-two punch? Or a "small" N-bomb detonated in a harbor? Heck how about a real deal ICBM hit? Yeah, my thoughts have always run along these lines (that it's very likely you'll start the emergency by getting sick or injured).
That's why I've always gotten a spare bottle of antibiotics whenever one of us has ever had an infection. Doctors are usually more than willing to write for an infection that's supposedly lingering and insurance will usually help pay for it. That applies to dental infections as well as for injuries and oddball infections like urinary tract infections.
For antibiotics I've usually tried to get the broad spectrum antibiotics as opposed to meds that are very narrow in their uses. Broad spectrum antibiotics like ...
Amoxicillin Levofloxacin Gatifloxacillin Streptomycin Tetracycline Chloramphenicol
My wife is prone towards respiratory infections and I'm prone towards ear infections, so I also always try to make sure that we have a couple Z-Paks (Zithromax) around. Whenever we get written for a new prescription we take the one that's been in the bag for awhile and the new one goes in.
If one of your kids or your spouse has asthma then make sure to have a spare Albuterol inhaler, perhaps an epi auto-injector, and maybe a steroid like prednisone.
Medications like phenergan and zofran for nausea and vomiting might also be worth their weight in gold and unlike pain medication where doctors are usually unwilling to write for it so that you have an emergency stash of it there's generally not much of a problem getting these meds.
Then there's over the over the counter stuff. Over the counter flu medication, Imodium for diarrhea relief, over the counter steroid creams, neosporin to help treat cuts, alcohol, hydrogen peroxide, a little bit of bleach for treating water and sterilization and so on. I also have a couple months worth of vitamins for each of us and then like the antibiotics I rotate the stuff out as I buy more.
It would also be good to have at least a month of medication for whatever daily meds your family takes (I.E. : For me that's Lisinopril for high blood pressure and Lipitor for high cholesterol). I've just gotten a new prescription 3 days early every time and gradually that's grown into having a complete 30 days supply.
As you can see the sky is basically the limit. It just depends on how much in resources you want to pour into it. If I were starting from scratch I would probably get at least one course of antibiotics for each family member, one month worth of meds of whatever they use normally and then a wide assortment of the over the counter stuff.
Besides your doctor you can buy most prescription meds online without a script just so long as they aren't greatly regulated.
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Exposure to radiation is something that I know less about except for the obvious like removing clothing, getting out of the area and preventative/shielding meds that are readily available like Potassium iodide.
www.businessinsider.com/how-to-lessen-the-effects-of-radiation-poisoning-from-a-nuclear-disaster-2011-3
There are meds like ....
* ... that are for radiation exposure and poisoning, where you'd get something like that I'm not sure. A few searches to buy it online didn't reveal any sources and only revealed more information about the drugs themselves.
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