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Post by NamelessStain on Nov 12, 2013 1:05:49 GMT
Stop overthinking it NXP. KISS.... It's what I do! NXP Seriously, ask OM about my setup. Tree straps, carabeaners, bow knots... I just redo the knots to choose the length. I never hit my butt against the ground
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Post by MrNoAm (Ken) on Nov 12, 2013 1:50:31 GMT
The Mrs. and I both have Hennessy Hammock Expeditions with Snake Skins. We also purchased Kammok Python straps (Daisy Chain Suspension System).
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Post by nxp on Nov 12, 2013 2:02:36 GMT
Nameless - which hammock do you use?
I tried a few systems with my HH, and used the dual rings for a while until the ridgeline on it snapped by the foot end and dumped me in a heap one night. After that I just picked up the WB adjustable webbing kit and made the HH essentially a gathered end hammock. With two ultralight wiregates on the ends I just leave everything together on the hammock, double round the tree with the webbing and snap it, then adjust for dangle with the sliders. Works and no knots to play with in the dark.
NXP
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Post by NamelessStain on Nov 12, 2013 11:50:23 GMT
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Post by scbrian on Nov 14, 2013 13:39:16 GMT
I'll be trying out the UQ this weekend, so I expect to wake up and adjust it a few times. Can someone familiar with UQ's toss a few pointers out? Mr D? OM? ETA: in fact, school me. I'm thinking - UQ under, HH in, then me in a good bag should be ok? Any need for a TQ? - I'm thinkging the bag negates the use of one except in pretty sever conditions? With the UQ underneath, it would be no different than tenting above, right?
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Post by omegaman on Nov 14, 2013 15:46:55 GMT
I'll be trying out the UQ this weekend, so I expect to wake up and adjust it a few times. Can someone familiar with UQ's toss a few pointers out? Mr D? OM? ETA: in fact, school me. I'm thinking - UQ under, HH in, then me in a good bag should be ok? Any need for a TQ? - I'm thinkging the bag negates the use of one except in pretty sever conditions? With the UQ underneath, it would be no different than tenting above, right? Top quilt and sleeping bags are pretty much synonymous. TGs stem from the UL crowd since the under insulation on sleeping bags is functionally worthless. The best way to use a sleeping bag in a hammock, I think, is to just unzip the whole thing, lay it on top of you with your feet in the footbox, and, voila! Top quilt, essentially. When setting up your UQ: position it so it is properly covering you body, but leave a little bit of "hang". Once your in the hammock, everything will tighten up. Feel underneath you to be sure the UQ isn't too tight with the weight of your body, thus compressing the insulation. You want to be an insulation sandwhich, floating in the air like a cloud and lofty all around I'd definitely practice at home, if possible, before going out.
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Post by Browning35 on Nov 14, 2013 17:38:33 GMT
I now have hammock envy. It does look like kind of a neat set up.
Wonder how easy it would be for me to sleep in one though. Never tried. Just so long as I'm flat I can drop off no problem. Most people that I know who work in jobs that end up with being sleep deprived have developed tricks for falling asleep fast since you might not get another chance.
For me clearing my mind and deep regular breathing and I'm lights out in about a minute..
That reclining position might screw with that. Then again it might not. Hard to tell. Usually I have to be flat though.
How easy is it to fall asleep in one? Any trouble?
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Post by Gingerbread Man on Nov 17, 2013 18:58:51 GMT
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Post by nxp on Nov 18, 2013 4:23:18 GMT
Nice ENO, RG - which hammock is that, the pro single? I know that's the pro tarp.
Browning - AFA falling asleep, I'm going to err on "if you're tired enough, you'll sleep". As a side/belly sleeper, I almost always prefer flat surfaces which usually ends me up on the ground. With hammocks, I almost always end up on my side. My problem is that if I get a wild hair up me, I usually want to roll - and I can't roll on my belly side, so I have to roll the long way around then get comfortable on the other side.
If I'm really tired, it doesn't matter. If I'm not, well, I'd prefer to be on the ground on an inflatable.
All of this matters little in the woods, though. Site selection (while important) is much easier with the hammock, I don't care about weather as much with a hammock (big 10x12 tarp covers everything and I'm out of run-off reach), and CAS works like a charm when it's 90deg out. That said, being a hanging meat sack of goodness for every flying bloodsucker in the woods can be an issue - I reference this as I have a HH, which has a non-netted/draped bottom so if a skeeter is determined enough he can get my kiester through the hammock bottom. Some hammocks like the ENO and WB Traveler have a net that drapes all over, so they have less of a chance to eat you. Other have a double bottom, and that helps too.
YMMV.
NXP
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Post by omegaman on Nov 18, 2013 13:42:36 GMT
I've gotta get those eno straps. Looking good GBM!
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Post by LowKey on Jul 26, 2014 3:42:00 GMT
Silly, silly question- Tiny wife and I prefer to sleep in the same bed even when camping. I'm a dyed in the wool side sleeper. She's able to sleep in any posture imaginable. However.....we need about 12-18 inches of space between us when we fall asleep. Lying up against each other is great for cuddling and getting drowsy, but dropping off to sleep requires laying back to back with some space. What, pray tell, hammock could achieve this because our soon-to-be home area is a cool/cold rain forest. It's not difficult to find dry ground to camp on...it's impossible (as in 140 inches of rain a year). Then there's the issue of the bears. Lot's and lot's of bears. They have bears like Central Park has squirrels. Obviously off-the-ground camping would be better....but only if we can actually sleep. Help us Obi-wan...you're our only hope......
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Post by homerj on Jul 26, 2014 23:16:12 GMT
I have an ENO double nest my wife and I have shared a few times but you def do not get your required spacing, while it was doable it wasn't really comfortable especially when one person is asleep and the other wakes up to re-position. We kinda gave up on sharing a hammock, if she comes with me I have to take a tent and sleeping pads instead.
Side sleeping is difficult for me in a hammock but I suppose if you get it taught enough you could do it. If you could find a hammock to do these two things I would also be interested in trying one out.
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Post by nxp on Jul 28, 2014 23:53:03 GMT
Silly, silly question- Tiny wife and I prefer to sleep in the same bed even when camping. I'm a died in the wool side sleeper. She's able to sleep in any posture imaginable. However.....we need about 12-18 inches of space between us when we fall asleep. Lying up against each other is great for cuddling and getting drowsy, but dropping off to sleep requires laying back to back with some space. What, pray tell, hammock could achieve this because our soon-to-be home area is a cool/cold rain forest. It's not difficult to find dry ground to camp on...it's impossible (as in 140 inches of rain a year). Then there's the issue of the bears. Lot's and lot's of bears. They have bears like Central Park has squirrels. Obviously off-the-ground camping would be better....but only if we can actually sleep. Help us Obi-wan...you're our only hope...... Clark Vertex could get you there... junglehammock.com/product/vertex-with-weathershield/
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Post by LowKey on Jul 30, 2014 17:07:06 GMT
Silly, silly question- Tiny wife and I prefer to sleep in the same bed even when camping. I'm a died in the wool side sleeper. She's able to sleep in any posture imaginable. However.....we need about 12-18 inches of space between us when we fall asleep. Lying up against each other is great for cuddling and getting drowsy, but dropping off to sleep requires laying back to back with some space. What, pray tell, hammock could achieve this because our soon-to-be home area is a cool/cold rain forest. It's not difficult to find dry ground to camp on...it's impossible (as in 140 inches of rain a year). Then there's the issue of the bears. Lot's and lot's of bears. They have bears like Central Park has squirrels. Obviously off-the-ground camping would be better....but only if we can actually sleep. Help us Obi-wan...you're our only hope...... Clark Vertex could get you there... junglehammock.com/product/vertex-with-weathershield/Looks like it has possibilities. Thanks!
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Post by misterdark on Dec 5, 2014 4:09:16 GMT
Just thought I'd toss in; Hammocks rock. Out on Hunting Island a few years ago. Rained all day and all night. We stayed nice and dry. Relaxing at a show last year. And YES! You too can hammock at 0F, at 6800' altitude! Just bring LOTS of insulation! Also, lowkey, this is only 4 months late, but do a search for "Bridge hammock" - they are hammocks that use a spreader bar at head and foot end, so they are a lot wider, although I feel a little less comfortable. But for two, a bridge hammock is the way to go.
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